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Born before 1986?
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*HmS*Trevor
Sat Mar 04 2006

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FOR THOSE BORN BEFORE 1986
>> According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were
> kids in the 60's, 70's and early 80's probably shouldn't have survived,
> because our baby cots were covered with brightly coloured lead-based
> paint which was promptly chewed and licked. We had no childproof lids on
> medicine bottles, or latches on doors or cabinets and it was fine to
> play with pans.
>> When we rode our bikes, we wore no helmets, just flip-flops and
> fluorescent 'spokey dokey's' on our wheels. As children, we would ride
> in cars with no seat belts or airbags - riding in the passenger seat was
> a treat.
>> We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle and it tasted
> the same.
>> We ate chips, bread and butter pudding and drank fizzy juice with sugar
> in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside
> playing.
>> We shared one drink with four friends, from one bottle or can and no-one
> actually died from this.
>> We would spend hours building go-carts out of scraps and then went top
> speed down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After
> running into stinging nettles a few times, we learned to solve the
> problem.
>> We would leave home in the morning and could play all day, as long as we
> were back before it got dark. No one was able to reach us and no one
> minded.
>> We did not have Play stations or X-Boxes, no video games at all. No 99
> channels on TV, no videotape movies, no surround sound, no mobile
> phones, no personal computers, no DVDs, no Internet chat rooms.
>> We had friends - we went outside and found them.
>> We played elastics and rounders, and sometimes that ball really hurt!
>> We fell out of trees, got cut, and broke bones but there were no law
> suits.
>> We had full on fist fights but no prosecution followed from other
> parents.
>> We played chap-the-door-run-away and were actually afraid of the owners
> catching us.
>> We walked to friends' homes.
>>> We also, believe it or not, WALKED to school; we didn't rely on mummy or
> daddy to drive us to school, which was just round the corner.
>> We made up games with sticks and tennis balls.
>> We rode bikes in packs of 7 and wore our coats by only the hood.
>> The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard
> of...They actually sided with the law.
>> This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem
> solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of
> innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and
> responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.
>> And you're one of them. Congratulations!
>> Pass this on to others who have had the luck to grow as real kids,
> before lawyers and government regulated our lives, for our own good.
>> For those of you who aren't old enough, thought you might like to read
> about us.
>> This my friends, is surprisingly frightening......and it might put a
> smile on your face:
>> The majority of students in universities today were born in
> 1986........They are called youth.
>> They have never heard of We are the World, We are the children, and the
> Uptown Girl they know is by Westlife not Billy Joel. They have never
> heard of Rick Astley, Bananarama, Nena Cherry or Belinda Carlisle.
>> For them, there has always been only one Germany and one Vietnam.
>> AIDS has existed since they were born. CD's have existed since they were
> born.
>> Michael Jackson has always been white.
>> To them John Travolta has always been round in shape and they can't
> imagine how this fat guy could be a god of dance.
>> They believe that Charlie's Angels and Mission Impossible are films from
> last year.
>> They can never imagine life before computers.
>> They'll never have pretended to be the A Team, RedHand Gang or the
> Famous Five.
>> They'll never have applied to be on Jim'll Fix It or Why Don't You.
>> They can't believe a black and white television ever existed. And they
> will never understand how we could leave the house without a mobile
> phone.
>> Now let's check if we're getting old...
>> 1. You understand what was written above and you smile.
>> 2. You need to sleep more, usually until the afternoon, after a night
> out.
>> 3. Your friends are getting married/already married.
>> 4. You are always surprised to see small children playing comfortably
> with computers.
>> 5. When you see teenagers with mobile phones, you shake your head.
>> 6. You remember watching Dirty Den in EastEnders the first time around.
>> 7. You meet your friends from time to time, talking about the Good old
> days, repeating again all the funny things you have experienced
> together.
>> 8. Having read this mail, you are thinking of forwarding it to some
> other friends because you think they will like it too...
>> Yes, you're getting old!!



Its spot on if you ask me
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*HmS*Rodge
Sat Mar 04 2006
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Spot on for me to..... I´m getting old. lol
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MentalCase*NAA*
Sun Mar 05 2006
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Bud I was 26 then shit

MC
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*HmS*Blood
Sun Mar 05 2006
HmS.Blood
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so true so true.. ;)
reading this really spins one back too the 80´s, thanks for the trip (110)

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*HmS*Echo11
Sun Mar 05 2006
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Dang I can rember all of that stuff espically the go carts with no breaks.. some how I think my brouther always forgot them on pourpous lol ..excuse spelling please .. (17) (94)
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*HmS*Ole Fart
Sun Mar 05 2006
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Trevor have you been watching me as a kid or what. this is really scary,

I grew up in Phoenix Az and the garden hose was the only place to get water (any ones we could find at anyones house) when playing war with 20 or so kids (we used to use slingshots and marbles for ammo duh that was smart hurt alot too) in the neighborhoods (Just thinking I am doing that now but on a computer, wow)

If I wanted to play in the house I was always told to go out and play (always thought dad and mom did not want me around but it was great)

ah go carts that brings back memories. My dad used to work for the ABC television station and the transmitters were on a mountain with great up and down grades of hills. I used to use a bucket with 4 coaster wheels to go down a hill. did this till I found out when you crashed the catus was very unforgiving. made a rider with two pieces of 2"x 4" and nailed roller skates to the bottom for wheels. Then learned how to bolt a break on it. In highschool in metal shop we built a go cart frame out of metal it was designed to go slow. A friend and I found a way to put a 350cc motorcycle motor on it. it was as fast as my dads Fiat car he owned. Hmmm almost did not survive that one.

I am a few friends used to do the crap in a paper bag by the front door too. kept me from getting fat as a kid being chased by the neighbors for most of my teen yrs.

Yeh used to walk two miles to school with a good friend we used to sing the Beatles song "Yesterday" to keep us amused. hey this was better than my dad. He used to walk 40 miles in a snow storm up hill both ways. Hmm guess I had it easy.

at 10 yrs a guy and I vandlized a vacant home. Just being stupid I guess. Mom and Dad made me pay for it out of my paper route money. I was always angry when I got in to trouble and they would not help me out. I see now it made a better person of my self and taught me a lesson. Ah do not get caught lol

I can remember our very first TV. Darn, it had a smaller rastor than my kids hand held play stationg thingy. Sitting in front of it and watching Commander Cody of star control. popeye cartoons (which was the only way my folks could get me to eat spinach) Milton Burl, argh. And in later yrs watching Mickey Mouse Club.

I could go down the list and give examples of what I did as a kid but it would take as much room as the original post.

I guess this is why I am a Ole Fart. Born 1950 USA Great post *HmS*Trevor this one brought back almost allllll of what I can remember lol. great Article and post. (105) (115) (501) (94)
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Die Trying
Sun Mar 05 2006
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Great post Trevor and Ole fart! I can completely relate and your even older than me Chuck. LOL.

I grew up in sunny Southern California....land of the always hot shining sun and unforgiving cactus. Fun and trouble was always just mere feet away at all times and it was good. It was those things that helped shape who I am today and the rest of you guys and gals as well.

Before the times of Computers, Cell Phones, and Gameboys, all we had basically were transistor radios (AM mostly 9volt), our bicycles (usually nothing more than two-wheeled death traps) or a 3-wheeled contraption that was made completely out of plastic called "The Big Wheel". I guess they hadn't figured out that plastic bikes just weren't practical for kids of the day. I wore that thing down to the nub. I rode it months after the front wheel had grinded off and all that was left were the pedals and the flat area where my butt fit in.

We use to have rock fights. They weren't supposed to be rock fights. They were supposed to be harmless dirt clods, but there was one overly ambitious (and somewhat sadistic) kid who found a way to put actual rocks in them and hit me dead in the forehead which of course required stitches but it never caused lawsuits or police to show up and was always forgotten quickly.

For entertainment, it was shows like H.R. Puff "n" Stuff or Speedbuggy, Scooby Doo, and Captian Marvel. We had tiny little black & white TVs in our bedroom to watch programs the grown-ups didn't want to watch and a huge 500lb Zenith console color TV we still had working 30 years later that we watched Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, and shows like Taxi. On weekends, the big thing was rollerskating or the movieshows. I could skate 3 times faster than I could actually run on foot which made me dangerous at any rollor rink even if my skates had worn out chalk-like wheels worn to approx half the original size.

For Christmas, we didn't get Ipods or Nintendos....we got round paddles with a rubber ball stapled to a very thin rubber band and then slap this ball back and forth with the paddle a few times intil the rubber band snapped...end of present. Or it was a 2-foot long vibrating football field where you spend an hour setting up your tiny plastic players only to turn on the vibration and watch them all scatter the wrong direction in no orderly fashon in seconds only to spend another hour setting them up hoping your next play will go as planned and you score the always unattianable touchdown. Then there was always good old fashioned Play-Doe. Us kids played with that foul smelling crud for years before we realized we really didn't like it or understand the concept of the stuff and it always wound up getting hard and dry and you would find little dried balls of it lying around in most everything you owned. I asked for a hot wheels set and never asked for one again after mom used one of the tracks to tan my behind with. If we were lucky, we might get a walkie talkie or something cool but in our day, we didn't have much available to us that was high-tech like kids have today.

Nieghborhoods where nieghborhoods and if any of us kids did any damage, there were no fights or cops called. It was always worked out and ding dong ditch-em was just a fun kids game we all played as a team. Sometimes all nieghborhood kids would go on trips together like the beach or the mountains. Kids today do not experience this much any more and birthday parties where attended like ritual.

We built forts out of whatever material was available (ie, cardboard boxes, wood, asbestos, rocks, glass, trash, rusty nails, and staples) and they would last the whole day. We would try to put wheels on anything we could and brakes were never an issue just as long as it was fast enough to hit a precariously placed ramp made out of old rotted fenceline and clear yet another obstacle sometimes over a foot tall in hieght without touching it....we never cleared it but it was fun trying and if one of us did we would be king for a day.

School was different too. We carried our scooby-doo or superman lunchboxes to school packed with stuff we would always trade at lunch. Lunchables didn't exist yet so if you wanted a lunch of your choice you had to learn the subtle art of bartering early in life. If you were good at it you could always find the dumb kid that was willing to trade his twinkies and jello pudding for your turnip sandwich and carrot juice. We had small classes, kind teachers, and we did a lot of things with glue, card paper, clay, buttons, some types of cerials and grains and we made art that sometimes ended up weighing many times the amount of the original cardboard it was made on. We watched The Electric Company on TV before lunch every day and actually learned from it.

We feared our parents wrath if we did wrong. Today the kids say "I dare you to hit me" or "Touch me and I'll call the cops". We respected our parents whether they were right or wrong and if we did something completely stupid we were diciplined which is in serious jeopardy today. We earned our rights and privelidges...they weren't just handed to us. We had to show respect to earn respect and we had to work for the things we really wanted. It taught us the meaning of responsibility and that money didn't grow on trees. It taught us to follow the rules and that rules were needed. It taught us how to be individuals and helped us develop into grown-ups with values.

Boy, thanks for the thread you guys. I love to write about these things from time to time and it sounds like we all basically experienced the same things. Those days are long gone in more ways than one I guess. I hope I also didn't get too long winded on you guys. Thanks again. It's good to remember these things once in a while. See ya all later. Peace.

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*HmS*Wedge
Mon Mar 06 2006
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TV was good in the good old days (oh darn i said it)

Saturday morning cartoons, ghostbusters, battle of the planets, thunderbirds, thundercats, he man, and many many more.

Then the saturday afternoon shows like the a team, knight rider, blue thunder, air wolf, littlest hobo, lassie, buck rodgers, dukes of hazard, magnum and on and on, the list is endless.

Great times, i have very found memories or running around playing soliders in the garden with cap guns, before they were banned because they had gun powder.

When you look at what we all have now its a marvel but also something is missing, for better or worse only time will tell i guess.

Yup nice posts and nice to remember the good old times. (oh darn it i did it again)

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*HmS*CRIMSON
Mon Mar 06 2006
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There was only one Weapon of choice for the serious 'Street Fighter' of the 60's and early 70's. Any Kid packing a Johnny 7 Gun OMA was a force to be reckoned with. Give me one of these 'One Man Army' killing machines in JO any day. Here's the spec for the unacquainted:

* Anti Tank Rocket
* Armor Piercing Shells
* Repeating Rifel
* Grenade Launcher
* Automatic Pistol (Detachable from main Gun)
* Anti Bunker Missile
* Tommy Gun

This BG's worst nightmare was about 3 feet long with a retractable Legs for steady and accurate aiming. (27) (40) . Still got mine in the loft somewhere, unfortunately its not complete as they are now pretty collectable. What a Toy.

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*HmS*Ole Fart
Mon Mar 06 2006
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*HmS*Crimsom our choice was bb's and marbles with a wrist rocket or slingshot darn were we stupid they really hurt. had to wear three layers of clothes to assorb the shock of getting hit.

ah there were a few times we added mortors. someone went to mexico and got M80 Blackcat and cherry bombs. (big bang fireworks) (M80 is 1/6 the stick of dynomite) one guy would light and the other would fire with wrist rocket. not very accurate (thank goodness or some of us would have been dead or maimed) we did this out in the desert out side of Phoenix AZ

We never used bb guns or pellet guns for the police sees kids running the neighborhoods with this ah I would have had a big criminal record lol

wrist rockets and sling shots could be put in a pocket lol (501) (94)
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*HmS*Echo11
Mon Mar 06 2006
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What ever happened to my friend flicka ?? sky king?? rin tin tin? atom aunt ?? I rember the first tv we had it had 3 channels that came on at 7:00 AM with the National authom and ended at midnight with the same.. we watched Ed Sullivan ever sunday night and wounderfull world of disney.. Getting the tv was a BIG Deal as mom though the tv was a tool of the devle ..LOL When we needed Dad applyed the bord of educiation to our seat of learnning.. and we NEVER Ever though of calling the cops .. Now a days kids dont say ty or sir or mam if I entered a house with my hat on dad would take my head off along with the Hat .. but it showed me respict for the Home and the folks liveing there .. We Had Block BBQs were the whol block would go to one persons home with all kinds of food and we would have a big party .. loved makeing the ice cream would churn that stuff for hours .. now a day you Hardly know ya neibor.. thanks Trevor for all the great memorys .. (17) (94)
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*HmS*Tiger
Tue Mar 07 2006
The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on my list.
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How Space Ghost, The Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, Bugs Bunny, Sylvester the Cat, Tom and Jerry, Speedy Gonzales, Mr. Magoo, the Road Runner, Abbott and Costello, Maw and Paw Kettle, Spanky and the Little Rascals, The Three Stooges, the afternoon Serials with the cliffhanger endings, what about evenings with Paladin, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Perry Mason, Petty Coat Junction, Beverly Hillbillys, The pilot of Star Trek, and as Porky Pig would say.... tha tha thats all folks...... except it isn't...... I am sure there are many more. But your right, as Bob Hope sang........... Thanks for the Memories !
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*HmS*Ole Fart
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I get the impression you guys all watched toooooo much tv. wow what ever happened as a kid to go out side and play. I grew up in Phoenix Arizona. Wild and crazy place, well I was a wild and crazy kid.

I used to go out in the desert and get lost. Kick Barrel catus off a 100 ft cliff. go horse back riding. have the ape hanger bars on my bicycle roll under while peddling as hard as I could,and lose skin on both elbows.

taking the wooden airplanes (the ones with the metal band in the front made of balsa wood)and flying them off a multity level (spelling) building in downtown Phoenix and getting chased by the police.

We used to as kids, put a dozen tomatos in a hot storage area in Phoenix (really hot) till they turned brown. (couldn't pitch them they would ooooooozzzzz between your fingers, had to palm them like nades)and we would take them out and pitch them at passing cars. this great fun till we hit a cop car by mistake and he chased us for a hour and half. ah we lost him hahahaha but made sure of our targets the next time.

Going to a mall and playing tag on roller skates, hmm the security gaurds seemed not to have a sense of humor about that either,

When I was in high school I was in a secret group called the flamming A's. I went to Alhambra High, our rival school was Maryvalle, wellllllll a group of us went to Maryvalle high and burned a 80 yrd A in their football field with kerosene. great fun and no one ever found out.

There is more to do as a kid than just watch tv. Maybe, just Maybe I would not have gotten in to so much trouble as a kid if I just watched the zombie tube a bit more lol

Naaaaaahhhh I had a great time as a kid.

well now you all know I was a totally rotten kid but darn I had fun and a lot of good memories lol

thank goodness this happened eons ago and statue of limitation has run out. I better quit while I am ahead (94) (48) (17) (55) (114)

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*HmS*Echo11
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To much tv ??? Tv for us was sunday night 2 hours and the evenning news.. every day on satderday IF we were good wich according to mom was verry seldom we got 2 hours in the mornning .. the rest of the time was school work chors ect we raised chickens and turkeys and rabbits.. try feeding 200 rabbits 30 turkeys and 150 chickens 2 times a day .. pluse cleanning .. doesent leave much time for playing but we got our share .. my brother shot moms favoret rabbit with a bow and arrow and blamed it on me lol boy did I get a woppen till mom noticed that I still had my school cloths and school books with me lol boy my brother got it twice once for the rabbit once for fibbing lmao he used a pillow to set down on at dinner lol.. trying to make mom feel bad it dident work mom never did whop us hard it just wasent in here but she sure could put the fear of her in to us lol..we made hoops out of wagon wheel bans and ran arouns pushing them with sticks.. Us kids always though mom had a set of eyes in the back of her head couse she always knew when we were doing something we were not supposed to .. and always cought us lol.. (17) (94)
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Die Trying
Tue Mar 07 2006
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Like I said, as kids many of us had to use what was available which many times, even by barren desert standards, was considered sparse at times but we never complained much. I loved the beach as a kid and loved to swim. My folks never got in though. My dad told me once that he let me go in first to make sure there wasn't any undertow. I'm sure he was joking.....at least at the time I did.

I was on TV a few times. Once in 1977 on an weekend NBC TV show called "Saturdays" where I was helping to build a model of what us kids thought a solar energy powered city would look like at the Anahiem Convention centor at a solar energy expo. I can't remember what materials we used exactly, but there were many paperclips involved. During that show, the cast of "The Waltons" were there and I got to meet them. Even earlier (About 1972) I was in the audience in a morning kids show called "The Grab Bag Game" which was a cheezy show but us kids had fun.

I had the privalidge of meeting Parnelli Jones (famous race car driver) as a young child because my mothers best friend was his sister. Mario Andretti wanted to marry my mother but she turned him down. Wow, some of the things you pass up are big things aren't they? so I had an interesting childhood to say the least.

Things were simple and fun back then. We never wanted for anything and luckily I had good parents even if they were a bit crazy back then and we were always taken care of. We didn't have to worry about gangs or guns in school and school was laid back. We drew a lot and used our imaginations for entertainment far more than anything else and when we had to learn about something, we usually had to open a book and actually read about it. We made extra money by either being extra good or mowing the grass. Telephones had rotary dialers and FM stereo was still very new. Stereos were called Hi-Fi sets and had tubes inside them that glowed and gave off heat. Gas was under 50 cents a gallon and ice creams were only a dime and we sat at the table for dinner as a family. When you did wrong, you payed the price and you were told "This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" (couldn't grasp that concept then) but I imagine it did.

We all talked about things being so great when we finally become grown-ups without realizing at the time we were experiencing the very best times in life. Looking back now, I wouldn't want to do it over, but it wouldn't be a bad thing to be able to visit once in a while. It amazes me how fast time has passed, and how little time we really do have. Some things seem like they happened so long ago, but other things that happened at the same time seem like it just happened yesterday. Ahhh, the good old days! I bet 20 or 30 years from now, we will be talking about today in the same way we talk about our childhood.....as fond memories. Thanks for the thread, its a good change. Peace to all my friends.

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