i understand what you are saying and i have written this example down and will look into writing and experimenting with other stuff as and when i need to with other maps or changeing other maps about a bit to make thm better you mentioned waypoints and attaching enemy to btrs and such like i have sorted tht in events as it works but i do have trouble with player waypoints and setting waypoints for enemy btrs/jeeps etc i have done it on one map but not managed it since lol and gave up with the map and now cannot look into old wac script to locate it to reuse lol a lot to be sed for bk up files which i now do for every file lol