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Coolie
Wed May 27 2009
Registered Member #518
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Location: UK
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Just a quick thought about what Novalogic stands for

N oobies
O ught to be ashamed of all the
V inigar heads and
A matures they employ who are
L ost in there own technology with
O ut a clue what they are doing, equals a
G ood for nothing
I ndecisive
C rap company

Didn't they have two major outages last year to move servers and give more reliable connections ????
The outage last Sunday took four times as long as they thought to move data
I think the words clueless morons come to mind

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*HmS*Wedge
Wed May 27 2009
Captain Slow

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I vote for Hardmaps to manage their games developement and servers.
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NUT ACE
Wed May 27 2009
picard
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Now Now guy's...

Don't be to hard on them. We'll have to give them credit for developing a very nice game, and giving a whole lot of people the inspiration for setting up a community of such nice players..

Without Novalogic Hardmaps probably wouldn't have excisted, or wouldn't have grown out to be such Fun. Since I have started to play JO, I gained a lot of new friends.

Thank you for that Novalogic, andf most of all thank you Hardmaps, for adding the other dimension to gaming...

NUT ACE out....
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*HmS*Wedge
Wed May 27 2009
Captain Slow

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All true which I have said in the past, and for supporting older games that most other companys would have pulled long ago, JO is still the best game I have played to date.

On the other hand...

Giving hardly any information out when everyone is desperate for anything, look at it this way, you probably booked your summer holiday and told your friends and family, its called planning ahead, so why give a release date of may this year when it could well be a whole year down the line.

Granted the economic situations have changed and no one will ever know what goes on behind the scenes but to be a whole year out is not exactly a short gap.

The small amount of screen shots we have all seen look like a game that is pretty far advanced to me, and the first screen shots we saw were a long time ago now.

Every other games company I have seen gives more information about up-comming games, they release screen shots, videos, press releases, all just enough information on the game within a time frame that keeps people interested about it, its called advertising your work, hype it up and make people want to go out and buy it, not just the loyal followers.

When we do get some news its like a feeding frenzy! because we all are desperate for it.

I think the thing is we all do like novas games this is why we get so frustrated when we get dates pushed back and no news or information, everyone here i think is at and has been at the point of needing a new novalogic game for a long time, you have to admit things are slowing down all over the community.

The point is that no other game can do what JO does. For whatever reason Coop seems to be at the bottom of the list for developers which is crazy and sad and leaves us with very few options on what to play, something new would be wonderful, if what I hear is true DFX2 is only a 4 player coop. All nova has to do is look at the lobbys and see which game type is the most popular, almost half of the games in DFX are coop so why reduce the player numbers by half in DFX2, internet connection speeds and computing power have increased, we are more than capable of hosting larger more system intensive games without a problem so that cant be the reason.

At every turn and even by novalogic Coop players are being pushed to one side, Crysis could have been the ultimate coop game, the AI is there when you play single player so why not multiplayer, Crytek have had 2 chances to develope the game further and include coop but havent, their forum is stuffed with people pleeding them to include coop.

Nova must have a time line of what happens at a certain date and stick to it or as close to it as they can, may this happens.... june this happens..... july this happens..... because it is obvious at the moment they dont, this then leeds to date changes, poor communication and loyal people like us getting a bit fed up.

I accept that they have lots of work to do, they have the servers to maintain, dfx and jo updates to do, website upgrades, new games to develope and everything else I cant think of but im sure goes on, I know how much time it takes us here to do what we do. If they have taken on too much then dont take on too much if you cant handle it, we dont really need dfx and jo updates, id rather have a new game than an update to an old game.

Rant over lol, I have always believed Novalogic can make DFAF great, they have done it in the past, no other games company has produced so many games I like.
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*HmSr*Bass
Wed May 27 2009
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i agree withthe n
ut lol
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Coolie
Wed May 27 2009
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Location: UK
Posts: 164
Ya some good points there by Nut & Wedge, i think the only thing Wedge missed off the end of his comments were "at some point in the future" but Nut is on the money & has hit the nail on the head without novalogic there would be no Hardmaps, just got to be the best team arround, i just took 5 mins to look at all the JO & DFX servers to see what game types were being hosted, may be nova hav'nt noticed

AAS = 32
Coop = 212
CTF = 6
DM = 4
FB = 4
KOTH = 1
TDM = 37
TKOTH = 32
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speedskater
Wed May 27 2009
speedskater
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every one wants to be part of the team, not the single hero, not in life or gaming. NL has a lot of games I like because of the coop aspect of FPS games. The shame is for me that the newer games are only fun playing after several MODs
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*HmS*Proteus
Thu May 28 2009
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HMMM! Maybe they don't like COOP games?
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MichaBen
Fri May 29 2009
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Location: Netherlands (Rotterdam)
Posts: 267
Well COOP players are the most demanding ones, they want a map editor, scripting language, 20 different terrains, lots of objects and decent AI. While the players Nova mostly aims their game at today just want 4 terrains with 8 stock maps full of spam vehicles to play over and over to get the highest kill/death ratio.

[ Edited Fri May 29 2009 ]
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speedskater
Sat May 30 2009
speedskater
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who is a point hunter (coolie) no one that I know (coolie)
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*HmS*deathwish
Sat May 30 2009
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do you know any point hunters speedskater?
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speedskater
Sat May 30 2009
speedskater
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Hey Deathwish (coolie), point hunters(coolie), do I know anyone (coolie) ? I remember one map(coolie) where a point hunter our scored us all, it was you death even topped mr coolie (all)(in)(fun)(coolie)
LOL
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moi
Sat May 30 2009
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yeah hear hear you are so right
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sputnik_421
Sun May 31 2009
sputnik_421
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NUT ACE wrote ...

Don't be to hard on them. We'll have to give them credit for developing a very nice game, and giving a whole lot of people the inspiration for setting up a community of such nice players..



Yea but that game was DF2, and who has a computer slow enough to play that anymore? The newer games have got better graphically but gone down hill in the playability. You now have to get mods for there games to get any ware close to the game play of DF2. I was able to shoot an M82 round though a wall and get a head shot, but have not been able to shoot though walls since DFLW.

I don't know what you guys see in JO, I'll stick with DFX VX & SO, I have tried DFX2 but nothing new there. They have had more than 5 years to come up with a new game, why should we pay for the game we already have with minor changes?
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*HmS*Ole Fart
Mon Jun 01 2009
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Location: Spanish Fork UT
Posts: 1681
(coolie) I know who you are talking about but his attributes is not Point Hunting but play all the time. memorize the maps and good play. but then I like this guy we are talking about (coolie)
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