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LoneGunman
Sat Aug 21 2004
Registered Member #188
Joined: Tue May 11 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 43
I figured I should start a thread on this subject because I have noticed all too often that teams cannot solve usually the same maps time and time again. Most of the time, the team perhaps did a sloppy job of checking all the rooms or scouring the entire land for any remaining bg's. Some of the time, it is the mapmaker's fault because he or she probably placed the real extract point a few meters behind the extract that appears on the map or perhaps accidentally assigned a tree or a desk as one of the "weapons" that need to be destroyed. For the latter case, I hope this thread will assist any player who is frustrated about completing a certain map, thus giving him or her a place of reference to find the solution to that map.


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LoneGunman
Sat Aug 21 2004
Registered Member #188
Joined: Tue May 11 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 43
Game: Land Warrior

Map Name: Dogs Of War

Solution: One very common problem occurs with the 2nd objective on this map: "Destroy drugs and equipment at Objective Honey". In addition to blowing up all the crates at Honey, also try to look for any surviving desks or tables in the buildings at Honey. Those also need to be destroyed because one of those tables is assigned as an "equipment".

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*HmS*Trevor
Sat Aug 21 2004

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Joined: Tue Dec 30 2003
Location: Lincolnshire England
Posts: 2080
Good idea m8ie, alos this could be used to report maps that dont end and the map makers could try to solve the problem. (18) (36)
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*HmS*Ranger Six
Sat Aug 21 2004
*HmS*Ranger Six
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Joined: Mon Dec 22 2003
Location: griffin, ga, usa
Posts: 1157
greta idea. one map is see unfinished alot on trev server is the one where you go past a foot bridge looking thing the thers a compound you take out the trucks and two helos the past there is another compound with four corner towers and a hanger with a block building in the hanger door with four shacks inside...once i played it through following way point and takin out the trucks and helo and it didnt finnish...but most times i just find this map stuck unfinished....but i have seen this map finish so i cant tell what went wrong, i worked both way the same
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*HmS*Trevor
Sat Aug 21 2004

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Location: Lincolnshire England
Posts: 2080
Need more info m8ie, look on server status page next time to get map name please
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*HmS*Quick
Thu Aug 26 2004
Registered Member #143
Joined: Mon Mar 29 2004
Location: Georgia, USA
Posts: 1700
Alright, let's have someone take a look at GF.NEW DAWN. Playing it on Killzone's server, and it was stuck. Looked like 500 mtrs around wps, found 6 or so other bgs that did not come close to the wps, and killed them. Still no extract. Anyone know the deal with this map??
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zimwolf
Thu Aug 26 2004
Registered Member #136
Joined: Mon Mar 22 2004
Posts: 183
Hey guys,

If you are stuck for the map name and cant see it in your cammandos drop down, then just pop into stats after the game and check "GAMES" and see what your last game was.

Just an idea.

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LoneGunman
Fri Aug 27 2004
Registered Member #188
Joined: Tue May 11 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 43
Game: Land Warrior

Map Name: Sand And Dust

Description: This map has the following losing condition: the bomb explodes. I have seen this map successfully end on every occasion when Black Widow was not destroyed. Destroying BW renders this map unfinishable. If you still feel frustrated, then try the following: not only make sure that you have completed every objective and killed every bg, but after reaching exfil and standing on the extract circle for about 30 seconds, go back to Objective Rock and stand in front of the bomb for about a minute because the bomb is never disarmed instantly for this map. However, this map is finishable as long as you do not destroy Black Widow.
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LoneGunman
Fri Aug 27 2004
Registered Member #188
Joined: Tue May 11 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 43
Game: Task Force Dagger

Map Name: shx_village

Description: Although this map usually ends, finding all of the bg's can be a pain in the butt. Remember to check the top of the pyramids and the 2nd floor of every building. About 4 or 5 bg's are standing on the balconies. The docs are found on a table at ground level.
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LoneGunman
Fri Aug 27 2004
Registered Member #188
Joined: Tue May 11 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 43
Game: Task Force Dagger

Map Name: KS_HIGHER GROUNDS

Objectives: Destroy communication dish, Destroy enemy BRDM's, Eliminate all enemy resistance in the compound

Description: I have never seen this map end. When I joined this map, all of the communication dishes, trucks, choppers, and towers were destroyed. I personally checked every room, and I do not think I could have missed anything on this map. I even destroyed all the armories and every building that is explodable. And I stood at exfil and the area around the exfil. I strongly believe this map is not completable and should be discarded by the HM crew.
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Guy-tor
Sat Aug 28 2004
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Joined: Sun Aug 08 2004
Location: Ocean Springs, Ms
Posts: 34
*HmS*Trevor wrote ...
Need more info m8ie, look on server status page next time to get map name please
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Yeah...there was this one map, with alot of bgs, and I had to blow some stuff up....you know the one I'm talking about?
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LoneGunman
Sat Aug 28 2004
Registered Member #188
Joined: Tue May 11 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 43
Game: Land Warrior

Map Name: HmS Rescue

Description: Finding all the crates at Obj Honey is very cumbersome. Remember to climb up the ladders to the balconies and check the 3rd floors of every house for any crate. But one crate is hidden underneath the plane along with one bg nearby. Also, since this map is loaded with psg snipers, the hardest sniper to find is a yeti that is perched on top of the largest tower at the center of the map. So no matter where you may run, you will always get shot because the yeti has a 360 view of the surrounding area.
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LoneGunman
Mon Aug 30 2004
Registered Member #188
Joined: Tue May 11 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 43
Game: Land Warrior

Map Name: HmS Daylight Robbery

Description: I have noticed players sometimes have problems completing this map because I once could not complete it also. This map is perfectly fine. At the first objective, remember to check the rooftops of the big square building and the rooftops of the two apartments. And at Objective Hurricane, remember to check all the small bunkers for any crates. The case is found in the glass encased concrete building in a trench near the barn at Objective King. Santa Clause in the audio message should give a "go" everytime a goal is achieved. So, if you didn't hear the old man say "it's clear" or "proceed to the next obj", then you missed something. And lastly, you should kill exactly 79 bg's in the whole map. Otherwise, start running again. ;)
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*HmS*Trevor
Mon Aug 30 2004

Registered Member #35
Joined: Tue Dec 30 2003
Location: Lincolnshire England
Posts: 2080
Seems like my maps will have to get harder if the solution is gona be posted here :)
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Lone Gunman
Fri Sep 03 2004
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Game: Land Warrior

Map Name: LAND ON HIGH GROUND

Description: Today is the first time we were able to complete this map. This map is usually crippled because the players naturally destroy everything in sight, not only the bg's, but also the crates, weapons, drums, power plants, dishes, buildings, etc. If you are reading this now to try to solve this map, then you are probably too late because your team has probably destroyed either a crate or the power plant. If you have, then you have no choice but to contact the host or a moderator to reset the server. But if you haven't yet played this map, then follow the audio messages very carefully. The old man does say "Do not destroy any of the equipment at the center". I honestly do not know what constitutes as equipment, so our team left everything untouched, including the weapons at Objective Raven and the powerplant and the dish at Objective Spirit. SO LEAVE EVERYTHING UNTOUCHED. Also, you will find one bg behind a door on the first floor in the big square building at Objective Raven, which players usually miss. And lastly, you should hear an audio message everytime an objective is finished.
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